III. THE FUTURE (“THE THINGS WHICH SHALL BE HEREAFTER"), PART 2b--6:1-19:21
     C. The Second Half of  the Tribulation, Part 3b--13:1-14:20
          4. The third parenthesis, part 2--13:1-14:20
               c. The Lamb--14:1-20
                    (I) General remarks
                         (A) The appropriateness of  this scene is seen by what preceded it; it is as if  John was fed up with the
                              antichrist and his crew, and had. to get a glimpse of  his blessed Lord, the true Christ, the Lamb.
                         (B) Then, too, our Lord is showing His grace after the terrible picture just presented.
                              (1) His grace is to those who are saved--whether of  the church or the tribulation.
                              (2) His grace is to John in that He permitted John to have a respite from the evil of  the antichrist.
                         (C) Seven sections
                              (1) Vision of  the 144,000--vv. 1-5
                              (2) Proclamation of  the Eternal Gospel--vv. 6, 7
                              (3) Prophetic announcement of  the fall of  great Babylon--v. 8
                              (4) The Warning of  eternal doom upon the beast-worshippers--vv. 9-12
                              (5) Proclamation of  special blessedness of  those who "die in the Lord"--v. 13
                              (6) Vision of  the harvest of  the earth--vv. 14-16
                              (7) Vision of  the vine of  the earth and the winepress of  blood-- vv. 17-20
                         (D) A threefold outline
                              (1) The Lamb's 144,000 contrasted to the antichrist's nations--vv.1-5
                              (2) The six "other"angels' messages--vv. 6-13
                              (3) The two sharp sickles and what they reap--vv. 14-20
                    (II) The Lamb's 144,000 contrasted to the antichrist's nations--vv. 1-5
                         (A) The Lamb upon Mount Zion
                              (1) This looks to the end of  the tribulation where the Lord will return to Mount Zion with His saints to
                                   reign.
                              (2) Here it is anticipatory--just waiting the final events to take place.
                              (3) It may well be that the Lord at this point is invisibly present at the Mount Zion waiting to visibly
                                   manifest Himself after the final judgments.
                         (B) Who are these 144,000?
                              (1) The arguments against their being the sealed Israelites of  chapter 7
                                   (a) The repetition of  the number 144,000 is not conclusive proof  that the two companies are the
                                        same since this number is the one of  governmental completeness and fulness.
                                   (b) These have the seal in their foreheads, but the form of  that seal is the Lamb's name and the
                                        name of  the Father; those in chapter 7 are sealed as the "servants of  our God."
                                   (c) These are "purchased out of  the earth" and are not said to be of  the tribes of  Israel.
                                   (d) These are all men for they are those who have not been defiled with women and are virgins.
                                   (e) These are the first fruits of  the redeemed.
                                   (f) Absolutely truthful and follow the Lamb without reserve.
                                   (g) These are thus considered by those using this argument that these are select believers of  every
                                        age.
                                   (h) OBJECTIONS
                                        ((I)) Though the number 144,000 is not conclusive, certainly it is more in accord with the book
                                             as a whole and the immediate context to identity this company as the same as Chapter 7.
                                        ((II)) Concerning the seal in their forehead, nothing is said in chapter 7 as to the nature of  that
                                             seal except that it is "the seal of  the living God"; what would be more appropriate than to
                                             seal their foreheads with the name of  the Lamb and of  the Father?  Furthermore, this seal is
                                             in direct contrast to that of  the beast in 13:17; in that day a person will either have the seal of
                                             God or the seal of  Satan.
                                        ((III)) The phrase "purchased out of  the earth" can be rendered "purchased out of  the land"
                                             making it a reference to Palestine which in turn would make it particularly Israelitish.
                                        ((IV)) The idea that these are all men is in the idea that "these are those which were not defiled
                                             with women."  The word "virgins" can apply to either men or women.
                                             ((A)) This is nothing more than a carry over from Romanism that considered sexual relations
                                                  as basically sinful.
                                             ((B)) Sex is only sinful outside of  God given marriage.
                                                  ((1)) Cf. Matthew 5:32
                                                  ((2)) 1 Corinthians 7:28
                                                  ((3)) Hebrews 13:4
                                             ((C)) It is the perversion of  sex that God condemns. (cf. Romans 1:26, 27)
                                             ((D)) The Scripture often uses the marriage relationship and violation of  the marriage
                                                  relationship to speak of  spiritual departure from God.
                                             ((E)) Even the phrase "which were not defiled with women" can apply to females as well as
                                                  males--cf. Romans 1:26, 27
                                             ((F)) Thus this section can refer to either man or woman or both.
                                             ((G)) If  that is the case, how is one to understand this phrase?
                                                  ((1)) Why not understand it literally?
                                                  ((2)) Thus, as Newell points out (216), these are Nazarites unto God--one who
                                                       voluntarily abstain from the marriage relation.--cf. Matthew 24:19-21 and 1
                                                       Corinthians 7:7.
                                        ((V)) The phrase "first fruits unto God and the Lamb" must be considered in the light of  the
                                             context.
                                             ((A)) The tribulation is drawing to a close.
                                             ((B)) The Lamb is already standing on Mount Zion waiting for the final judgments.
                                             ((C)) The words themselves are kingdom words, so that the Millennium is in view.
                                             ((D)) These, therefore, are the firistfruits of  the Millennium.
                                             ((E)) The first fruits suggest that the harvest is to follow.
                                        ((VI)) These are absolutely truthful and follow the Lamb.
                                             ((A)) The notion of  complete truthfulness is not only a characteristic of  saints in the church
                                                  age, but of  all saints; nevertheless, the emphasis here on truthfulness is very important in
                                                  the light of  this day of  falsehood that will prevail in the tribulation.  Thus, if  anything, this
                                                  phrase points to the sealed company rather than any other group of  saints.
                                             ((B)) The phrase "These are they that follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth." can apply to
                                                  tribulation saints better than church saints.  The church is the Lamb's Bride and would be
                                                  by His side, but these follow like attendants at a wedding.
                                             ((C)) Cf. Zephaniah 3:13
                              (2) The arguments for these being the 144,000 of  chapter seven were pretty much given in the
                                   objections to the other viewpoint.  The chief argument in favor of  this viewpoint is that the
                                   tribulation deals wi th Israel, the tribulation in in view (that is the end of  it), and the church is
                                   nowhere present in any of  these scenes except in the persons of  the 24 elders.  The very fact that
                                   these are separate from the 24 elders (which this writer had before determined is the church ) is
                                   further proof that these are not church saints.  Thus we conclude with Newell (218; italics are his.):
                                   "These first fruits, . . . of  Israel, this 144,000 are 'without blemish' (Revelation 14:5).  They are a
                                   public example and pledge of  what the 'all-righteous' nation of  Israel will be in the Millennium!
                                   What will happen to Israel has already happened to them!"
                         (C) The contrast with the nations
                              (1) The other nations go after the beast and follow him who is the lie.
                              (2) These other nations will defile themselves and will pervert the the truth into a lie.
                              (3) In direct contrast these 144,000 sealed ones will be truthful at all times and will not worship the
                                   beast.
                    (III) The messages of  three other angels--vv. 6-13
                         (A) Only three of  the angels are mentioned in these verses; the other three are found in vv. 14-30.
                         (B) The proclamation of  the eternal Gospel--vv. 6, 7
                              (1) This is a gospel, good news, not a pronouncement of  doom.
                              (2) Notice that this is proclaimed by an angel, not men (although the word angel can be rendered
                                   messenger).
                                   (a) This angel is in the midst of  heaven, not on earth.
                                   (b) In no sense can this be construed to be the church.
                              (3) This is, therefore, not the gospel of  grace of  salvation through faith in Jesus Christ.
                              (4) There is no evidence that this gospel is heeded and obeyed.  Remember that Noah preached at
                                   least a hundred years without anyone except his own family heeding the massage.
                              (5) This gospel is eternal that is, forever true.
                                   (a) Thus, it is adaptable to all ages.
                                   (b) The Greek here is aionion, constantly befitting.
                                   (c) "But it is peculiarly" befitting at the hour when the whole earth, except God's elect, are madly
                                        and blindly worshipping the Beast and his image."--Newell, 220
                                   (d) Newell, Ibid.--"Universal idolatry, hideous, unreasonable, absurd, God-provoking, as it is, will
                                        fill the earth during the time of  our present chapter.  Slavish, abject prostration before an image
                                        of  the most wicked man of  the human race, with its consequent obliteration of  the glory of  the
                                        Creator, will prevail, even among the majority of  Israel."
                                   (e) This gospel is a call back to the creator--is it not of  interest that a theory of  origins which
                                        denies, for all practical purposes, God's role as Creator is being pushed in the majority of  our
                                        educational institutions even today?
                                   (f) This gospel warns of  God's judgment to come; in fact, the angel says that God's judgment is to
                                        come.
                         (C) The prophetic announcement of  the fall of  Babylon--v. 8
                              (1) Announced by another angel, not a man.
                              (2) The actualization of  this doom occurs in chapters 17, 18.
                              (3) Babylon has been the center of  Satan's operation.
                                   (a) True from the flood on
                                   (b) Idolatry, to the best of  this writer's knowledge, began there.
                                   (c) From there Satan planned to extend idolatry to all nations in order to destroy the knowledge and
                                        worship of  Jehovah God, replacing the worship of  himself.
                              (4) Babylon judged because it made all nations "drink of  the wine of  the wrath of  her fornication."
                                   (a) The wine--cf. Jeremiah 51:7; 50:38
                                   (b) The wine of  wrath--Jeremiah 25:15-26--("Loving the creature rather than the Creator, and
                                        idolatry rather than God, God gave them over to the system of  Babylonian satanism that
                                        brought God's wrath upon them."--cf. Romans 1:18 ff.) (Newell, 222)
                                   (c) The fornication--doubtlessly idolatry, since the Old Testament often uses this term in that way
                              (5) The "fallen, fallen" may well indicate that there is double destruction.
                                   (a) The system is destroyed in chapter 17.
                                   (b) The city is destroyed in chapter 18.
                                   (c) This shows the close connection between Babylon and Babylon the Great, the mother of
                                        harlots.
                                   (d) Newell, 223--"The idolatry which originated at Babylon will yet bring wrath on all the nations,
                                        and lastly cast Babylon down to the doom of  Sodom."
                                        ((I)) Cf. Jeremiah 50:40
                                        ((II)) Remember that all of  this idolatry began at the tower of  Babel, the site of  Babylon.--cf.
                                             Genesis 11:1-9
                         (D) The warning of  eternal doom upon the beast-worshippers--vv. 9-12
                              (1) This is the proclamation of  the third angel--v. 9.
                                   (a) The proclamation is made with a great voice.
                                   (b) The proclamation is to the worshippers of  the beast.
                                        ((I)) Includes those who worship the beast
                                        ((II)) Includes those who worship the image of'  the beast
                                       ((III)) Includes those who received the mark of  the beast in their forehead or hand
                             (2) The Judgment upon them--vv. 10, 11
                                  (a) God in complete justice brings these to judgment.
                                  (b) The nature of  the judgment
                                       ((I)) The withdrawal of  all mercy forever
                                            ((A)) The wine of  His wrath is unmixed--"unmingled with any compassion
                                                 whatsoever."--Newell, 224
                                            ((B)) These have repeatedly spurned God's mercy and love; now His wrath and hate is
                                                 poured out upon them.
                                       ((II)) The cup of  His indignation served to them
                                            ((A)) Cf. Romans 2:4-6
                                            ((B)) God is long-suffering, but His patience will come to an end--cf. Psalm 76:7
                                            ((C)) "Oh," say some, "but that is an Old Testament idea, i. e., that God is a God of  wrath;
                                                 we know that in the New Testament He is set forth as the God of  love."  But wait a
                                                 minute and consider these New Testament passages.
                                                 ((1)) John 3:16-18, 36
                                                 ((2)) Romans 12:19
                                            ((D)) Newell, Ibid.--"The creature of  this human race for whom His Son died who turns his
                                                 back on the God whose name is Love, and chooses His enemy , the old serpent and
                                                 murderer--God plainly tells us what He will do with him!  He shall have 'indignation
                                                 forever'"
                                  (c) The means of  judgment
                                       ((I)) Tormented wi th fire and brimstone
                                       ((II)) Newell (Ibid.) says, "Brimstone is the most terrible substance known in its action upon
                                            human flesh--in its torment when it touches the body."
                                       ((III)) This brimstone is to be combined with fire and thus "it is absolute agony, unutterable
                                            anguish!" (Newell, Ibid.)
                                       ((IV)) You all know what agony a simple burn can cause; imagine what a hot sticky substance
                                            would feel like.
                                  (d) The onlookers
                                       ((I)) The holy angels
                                            ((A)) The vast hosts of  these holy servants of  God
                                            ((B)) These are those, of  course, who did not fall with Lucifer, Satan.
                                            ((C)) These are the ones who with angelic astonishment watched the Son of  God taste death
                                                 for mankind.
                                            ((D)) Now these watch the terrible choice of  judgment that the Christ-rejecting and
                                                 Christ-hating humans have brought on themselves, and they watch "in deep, awful and holy
                                                 approval of  the divine sentence,--for their God hath done this!" (Newell, 224-225)
                                       ((II)) In the presence of  the Lamb
                                            ((A)) The mild and gentle Jesus is watching this divine sentence on those for whom He died,
                                                 but who in turn rejected Him.
                                            ((B)) "Mercy is gone forever if  the Lamb stands there:  and He will!"--Newell, 225
                                            ((C)) Yes, no longer is the hand of  the merciful Lord extended, but this writer can see Him
                                                 standing there, arms folded, and possibly nodding His Holy Head at this just holocaust.
                                            ((D)) Newell (225, footnote) aptly says:  "Let the daringly foolish that deny eternal
                                                 punishment, and who profess to believe in a God incapable of  wrath stay away from this
                                                 spot!"
                                  (e) The duration of  this judgment
                                       ((I)) The smoke of  their torment ascends up for ever and ever.
                                            ((A)) Not because there are so many of  them
                                            ((B)) The Greek literally is "into ages of  ages."
                                             ((C)) The whole notion is one of  continuing for eternity.
                                             ((D)) There is absolutely no concept of  annihilation here.
                                        ((II)) No rest day nor night
                                             ((A)) This phrase only adds emphasis to the fact that it is wrath FOREVER.
                                             ((B)) If  annihilation were true, this added emphasis would not only not be necessary , but
                                                  would read, "they are immediately destroyed."
                                        ((III)) The recipients of  this wrath are again mentioned, as if  the Spirit of  God was making it
                                             abundantly clear who was to be so judged.
                             (3) The marks of  the patience of  God's elect--v. 12
                                  (a) These are the saints in contrast to those who are doomed.
                                  (b) These are undoubtedly the elect of  Israel--tribulation saints
                                  (c) Also included may be the great multitude who help Israel in this time of  Jacob's trouble.
                                  (d) Their patience is seen in waiting for God to avenge them rather than taking vengeance
                                       themselves.
                                  (e) In application these could represent the saints of  all ages and thus teaches us a valuable lesson
                                       of being patient when unbelievers speak evil of  us and of  our Lord.
                                  (f) These saints are those
                                       ((I)) Keep the commandments of  God
                                       ((II)) Keep the faith of  Jesus
                                       ((III)) Both of  these phrases are Messianic in tone.
                        (E) Proclamation of  the special blessedness of  those who "die in the Lord"--v. 13
                             (1) This passage has many times been misapplied to believers in this age.
                                  (a) Those who die in this present church age certainly are in a blessed state.
                                  (b) Those who die in this present age certainly rest from their labors and their works do follow them.
                                  (c) But the implication here is that these are more blessed than those who are alive in the Lord.
                                  (d) Such a difference may exist in this present age, but nowhere else is stated or implied.
                                  (e) The dead in Christ are more blessed than those of  us who are still alive only the sense that they
                                       are in the presence of  the Lord.
                                  (f) This statement is in the midst of  a section dealing with the tribulation and is most appropriate for
                                       believers who die at that time.
                             (2) Because "the fearful days of  the Antichrist are on," death "is better than life, and for "the two
                                  reasons here announced by the Spirit." (Newell, 226)
                                  (a) Rest from their labors
                                       ((I)) This phrase is preceded by the word "that", hina in the Greek, signifying that "rest is at last
                                            obtainable in no other way but by death."--Newell, Ibid.
                                       ((II)) The beast has power to overcome the saints--Revelation 13:7
                                       ((III)) He will wear out the saints--Daniel 7:25
                                  (b) Their works follow them.
                                       ((I)) This word "follow" occurs several times in the context.
                                            ((A)) 14:4
                                            ((B)) 14:8
                                            ((C)) 14:9
                                            ((D)) 14:13
                                            ((E)) Emphasizes the close connection of  this verse with what proceeds it.
                                       ((II)) These are the last martyrs and are seen to be reigning with Christ--Revelation 20:6.
                                            ((A)) These thus have "a higher place than those, even of  Israel, who merely 'inherit the
                                                 kingdom' as in Matthew 25:31-46."--Newell, 227
                                            ((B)) John is instructed to write as though God wants particular attention drawn to these
                                                 blessed ones.
                    (IV) The two sharp sickles and what they reap (or the messages of  the other three angels)--vv. 14-20
                         (A) PROBLEMS of  the passage
                              (1) Is this an advance picture of  Armageddon or a preview of  the rest of  the period?
                              (2) What group of  people are reaped by the Lord in vv. 14-16--gentiles or Jews?
                              (3) \\'hat is the vine of  earth--Jews or gentiles?
                         (B) Problem # 1--the time in view.
                              (1) KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A PARENTHESIS BETWEEN THE TRUMPETS AND THE
                                   VIALS.
                                   (a) As such it can picture events for any part of  the last 3 1/2 years.
                                   (b) Since this section is toward the end of  the parenthesis and immediately precedes the end
                                        judgments of  the tribulation, one might be able to conclude that it goes with the end of
                                        tribulation.
                              (2) As to whether it is an advance picture of  Armageddon (of  which more will be said later) is not
                                   easy to decide.
                                   (a) Many commentators do make it so.
                                   (b) The identity of  those harvested in these verses may be a determining factor.
                                   (c) The two may well be blended here--a preview of  the remainder of  the tribulation with an
                                        expansion given under the seven vials, and an advance picture of  Armageddon under the figure
                                        of  the winepress.
                         (C) The harvest of  the earth vision--vv. 14-16
                              (1) This is problem #2--what group is harvested?
                              (2) The Harvester--v. 14
                                   (a) The white cloud
                                        ((I)) This is what John sees first.
                                        ((II)) Then, John sees the one sitting on the cloud.
                                   (b) The Personage
                                        ((I)) One like a son of  man
                                        ((II)) Undoubtedly Jesus Christ to Whom judgment is ultimately given
                                        ((III)) This name is used in two contexts.
                                             ((A)) Used in Messianic contexts, thus would identify Him with Israel
                                             ((B)) Used also in contexts where Jesus is identifying Himself with the human race.  In this
                                                  connection, Unger declares:  "This term is uniformly used of  Christ in connection with His
                                                  mission (. . .), His death and resurrection (. . .) and His second advent.  It transcends
                                                  purely Jewish limitations and has application to the salvation of  the entire race."  "It is, for
                                                  example, in this name that universal judgment is committed to our Lord (John 5:22, 27)."
                                                  (Source unknown, but this writer thinks it is his Bible Dictionary)
                                        ((IV)) He is the one who wears the golden crown--this clearly indicates His royal right--cf.
                                             Psalm 8:6 which will be fulfilled.
                                   (c) In His hand a sharp sickle
                                        ((I)) Not His glorious person is in view, nor the manner of  His coming
                                        ((II)) The fact that He has an instrument of  reaping is emphasized here.
                                        ((III)) The word "sickle"
                                             ((A)) Occurs only twelve times in the whole Bible
                                             ((B)) Seven of  the twelve are in these verses.
                                        ((IV)) Note the time of  this incident.
                                             ((A)) After Revelation 4:1, the rapture--thus after church matters.
                                             ((B)) After the preservation of  the 144,000 and great multitude--chapter 7 and 14:1-5
                                             ((C)) After the martyrs under the beast are comforted in 14:1, 3
                                             ((D)) This only leaves two groups to be reaped.
                                                  ((1)) The wicked Gentiles
                                                  ((2)) The apostate Jews
                              (3) The harvest--vv. 15, 16
                                   (a) As suggested this is a judgment.
                                   (b) An angel proclaims that the Lord is to reap in a seemingly command.
                                        ((I)) This may seem strange for an angel to command the Lord.
                                        ((II)) But NOTE:  this angel comes out of  the temple, i. e., from the very presence of  God the
                                             Father; thus, this angel is merely a messenger to the Lord.
                                        ((III)) Remember God the Father has set the times and seasons within His own authority.
                                             ((A)) Acts 1:7
                                             ((B)) Matthew 24:36
                                   (c) Send forth the sickle and reap.
                                        ((I)) Cannot be the reaping of  saints and sinners
                                             ((A)) Matthew 13:  parable of  tares often used to support this idea.
                                             ((B)) Angels not the Lord are the reapers in the parable of  wheat and tares.
                                             ((C)) Here the reaper, as this writer showed, is the Lord.
                                        ((II)) Primarily the reaping is judgment upon the wicked.
                                        ((III)) Which wicked, Gentiles or Jews?
                                             ((A)) This writer personally believes that it is judgment on Gentiles.
                                             ((B)) Reasons will be given in considering "The vine of  the earth."
                                   (d) The hour to reap is come.
                                        ((I)) What solemn words these are.
                                        ((II)) Repeatedly in the Old Testament the prophets warned of  this harvest time for the wicked.
                                        ((III)) Cf. Joel 3:13) where the harvest and the winepress are brought together.
                                   (e) The harvest of  the earth is dry.
                                        ((I)) Not "ripe" as in Authorized Version, some say.
                                             ((A)) The word dry according to Alford (IV:691) means "perfectly ripe."
                                             ((B)) Therefore, the King James Version rendering of  "ripe" is okay.
                                        ((II)) Cf. Luke 23:31--Note the context, which has to do with Israel rather than Gentiles
                                   (f) Verse 16 in one brief sentence sets forth the Lord's obedience to the Father's command.
                                        ((I)) The actor--”He that sat on the cloud"
                                        ((II)) The act--"Thrust in His sickle on the earth."
                                        ((III)) The result--"And the earth was reaped."
                                             ((A)) "Ah, and alas!  how little men dream of  the end of  all their pride and their
                                                  ambitions!"--
                                                  Newell, 230; italics are his.
                                             ((B)) "'The earth was reaped':  That is the end of  all things of  which man boasts!"--Newell,
                                                  Ibid.; italics are his.
                         (D) The vision of  the vine of  the earth and the winepress of  blood--vv. 17-20
                              (1) Problem # 13 is what group is the vine of  earth?
                              (2) The reaper--v. 17
                                   (a) An angel, not the Lord
                                   (b) Angels are most often associated with Israel when some announcement concerning that people
                                        is to be made, particularly concerning this end time.
                                        ((I)) Cf. Daniel 8:15
                                        ((II)) Daniel 9:2
                                        ((III)) Daniel 10:10ff.
                                        ((IV)) Daniel 12:1
                                        ((V)) Matthew 1:20
                                        ((VI)) Matthew 4:11
                                        ((VII)) Luke 1:11-19, 26-35
                                        ((VIII)) Luke 2:8-14
                                        ((IX)) Jude 9
                                   (c) Note that this angel comes out of  the temple--i. e., from the presence of  the Father.
                              (3) The third angel--v. 18a
                                   (a) This one is from the altar, and has power over fire.
                                   (b) The altar immediately suggests that Israel may be in view.
                                   (c) He gives command to the second angel--to reap the vine of  the earth.
                              (4) The vine of  the earth --v. 18b
                                   (a) The identity of  the vine
                                        ((I)) Newell (231) seems to suggest that it is the beast, the antichrist, and those actively in league
                                             with him; this would be in contrast to the True Vine, Jesus Christ, and His branches, the
                                             believing church.
                                             ((A)) Objection # 1--Nowhere is the antichrist ever pictured as a vine.
                                             ((B)) Objection # 2--To make such a parallel, one should insist that the apostate church is
                                                  here connected as branches; however, the apostate church has net yet been made
                                                  manifest in this book."
                                             ((C)) Objection # 3--All the references in the Old Testament to which he refers
                                                  (Deuteronomy 32:31-35; Joel 312-14) can apply as well, if  not better to Israel.
                                             ((D)) Though this writer did not say so, the harvest of  the earth in vv. 14-16 seem to be
                                                  more likely of  Gentiles.  Therefore, this one could not also be.
                                                  ((1)) The Lord is the reaper there.
                                                  ((2)) Matthew 25:31ff. suggests this harvesting.
                                                  ((3)) The difficulty of  separating these two groups is that their judgment occurs together.
                                        ((II)) The apostate Jews
                                             ((A)) Israel in many passages is pictured as a vine.
                                                  ((1)) Hosea 10:1
                                                  ((2)) Isaiah 5:1-7
                                                  ((3)) Psalm 80:8
                                                  ((4)) Some of  the parables of  Jesus suggest it
                                             ((B)) Even the passage in Joel 3, though it is aimed at Gentiles, has to do with Israel.  The
                                                  nations are at this harvest and winepress because of  Israel.
                                             ((C)) Keep in mind that the apostate Jews are not consider God's people, but just as the
                                                  heathen.  Nevertheless, they are the vine, even if  productive of  wild grapes.--cf. Isaiah 5
                                             ((D)) The chief difficulty with making the vine here apostate Israel is that not only are the
                                                  apostate Jews ultimately placed under God's wrath, but also the gentile nations.  It may be
                                                  that the two groups reaped (the one in vv. 14, 15, and the other here in v. 19) are both
                                                  put into "the wiinepress of  the wrath of  God."
                                        ((III)) The judgment is sure.
                                             ((A)) In the final analysis, it makes little difference which groups are in view here except that
                                                  they are the wicked.
                                             ((B)) In any event, the picture presented here is a terrible one.
                              (5) The treading of  the winepress--v. 20
                                   (a) Trodden without the city
                                        ((I)) The city is, of  course, Jerusalem.
                                        ((II)) This may will be in the valley of  Jehoshaphat--just east of  Jerusalem--as pictured in Joel 3
                                             and Revelation 16:16ff.
                                   (b) Blood from the winepress for a distance of 1600 furlongs or stadia.
                                        ((I)) The stadion = 600 Greek feet = 606 3/4 English feet.
                                        ((II)) 1600 stadia = 200 Greek miles
                                        ((III)) The Greek mile is 426 ft. shorter than our mile.
                                        ((IV)) Therefore, 1600 stadia would equal 970,800 feet or approximately 184 of our miles.
                                        ((V)) Newell (233) says this would be "a river from Edom to Carmel," but he does not say what
                                             part of  Edom--perhaps the center of  it.
                                        ((VI)) Using the city of  Bozrah in Edom, the distance would extend almost to Damascus on the
                                             north, or Sidon on the Mediterranean Sea.
                                        ((VII)) In any event, Newell (Ibid.) is more correct in saying, "We dare not read the verse that
                                             tells this, except as God's literal foreview of  fact!" rather than saying with Alford (IV:693),
                                             "We may fairly say, either that the number is assigned simply to signify completeness and
                                             magnitude (. . .), or else this is one of  the riddles of  the Apocalypse to which not even a
                                                  proximate solution has ever yet been given."
                                        ((VIII)) Note also the blood is to be to the bridles of  the horses, or about four feet.
                                             ((A)) This could mean that the river of  blood is that deep.
                                             ((B)) Or it could mean that the blood splashes that high.
                                             ((C)) Newell (Ibid.) takes the first position, which may seem to be an extreme.  This writer is
                                                  inclined to agree though at first the second view came to mind.
                                             ((D)) IN EITHER CASE, HUMAN CARNAGE WILL BE GREAT IN THAT DAY.
                                        ((IX)) Isaiah 63 is very suggestive in this connection.
                                        ((X)) Cf. also
                                             ((A)) Isaiah34:1-10
                                             ((B)) Joel 3:1ff.
                                   (c) This treading of  the winepress is "a literal trampling of  the enemies of  the Lord in His fury," and
                                        thus may include both the wicked Gentiles and the apostate Jews.  There is nothing to indicate
                                        that the harvest of  vv. 14-16 is not put into the winepress of  God's wrath (This wrath realizes
                                        that this is an argument from silence which can cut both ways.).  However, the day of  God's
                                        wrath is coming, and when it comes, it will truely be "the great and terrible Day of  the Lord."


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